. >> rose: is the president different this time as a negotiator because, a, he won an election and, b, he learned from the experience he is had in his first term? >> i think so, i don't know what david would say to that. as i look at this, a, it's clear he won the election and that gave him somewhat of a policy mandate. he was quite specific of what kind of grand bargain he envisioned that it would involve higher tax revenue. if the president hasn't won the election or had been as big a margin i don't think you would have seen the deal looking as favorable to the administration as it was. i think the president learned from the debt ceiling and what everybody forgets, the extension of the tax cuts at the end of 2010. i think one lesson that the full administration learned was just because you did a deal that was bipartisan doesn't actually automatically make it easier to make future deals. so they extended it at the end of 2010 in a heavily bipartisan way but that didn't stop us from a really debilitating and horrible experience on the debt ceiling and i think that was a backdrop to th